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Note from 29 November 2021

  • Nicolas Hoizey
  • 29 November 2021
  • Cloudflare, Netlify, WebPerf
  • 25 reactions

That's it! After a while comparing Netlify and Cloudflare TTFB from France, I moved my photography site to the later.

Results are great!

TTFB is much better on Cloudflare, and so are other metrics

Impact for users is obvious:

Users see the page and photo 750ms earlier!

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  1. Bryce Wray avatar Bryce Wray
    Can’t beat that CF POP count, that’s for sure.
    • 29 November 2021, 19:14
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  2. Nicolas Hoizey avatar Nicolas Hoizey
    Indeed!
    • 29 November 2021, 19:19
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  3. Marc Filleul 🇫🇷 avatar Marc Filleul 🇫🇷
    I tried Cloudflare Pages last week but was disappointed by the build time.
    More than 2 minutes to load the build environment and then a random build time.

    So I think I will just use Cloudflare DNS and Netlify/Vercel for hosting.
    • 29 November 2021, 21:02
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  4. Nicolas Hoizey avatar Nicolas Hoizey
    The Eleventy part of my build is faster on Cloudflare than on Netlify, but the whole build is a little faster on Netlify.

    But there's an important step Cloudflare has that Netlify don't:
    "Deploying your site to Cloudflare's global network..."

    DNS is not enough, CDN is key.
    • 29 November 2021, 21:24
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  5. Nicolas Hoizey avatar Nicolas Hoizey
    On an "intelligent CDN", but nobody knows which… 🤷‍♂️

    netlify.com/blog/2016/04/1…

    The fact is TTFB from France is bad on Netlify, not on Cloudflare.
    • 29 November 2021, 21:25
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  6. Alexandre avatar Alexandre
    Thanks for the information ! Very strange as most of the big CDNs (Fastly/Cloudflare/Akamai/Verizon/CDN77,BunnyCDN) have pops in France and are very fast !
    Really wondering which one is used!
    • 30 November 2021, 09:52
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  7. Nicolas Hoizey avatar Nicolas Hoizey
    They unfortunately don’t provide this information.
    • 30 November 2021, 12:23
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  8. Nevi Shah avatar Nevi Shah
    Hey both - PM of Pages here. We are actively working on speeding up Pages build times. Stay tuned for updates!
    • 1 December 2021, 18:01
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  9. Nicolas Hoizey avatar Nicolas Hoizey
    That’s great news, thanks!
    • 1 December 2021, 18:12
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  10. Marc Filleul 🇫🇷 avatar Marc Filleul 🇫🇷
    Great! Thanks. I remember now what was the real deal breaker for me. I miss a simple redirect option to redirect the cloudflare dev url to the custom url. I was told to use a Worker but it seems a little overkilled to me.
    Will follow the news cause I'd love to use your solution.
    • 1 December 2021, 18:28
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    Here is TTFB for:

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