Grant Gross

Devs gaining little (if anything) from AI coding assistants

https://www.cio.com/article/3540579/devs-gaining-little-if-anything-from-ai-coding-assistants.html

“It becomes increasingly more challenging to understand and debug the AI-generated code, and troubleshooting becomes so resource-intensive that it is easier to rewrite the code from scratch than fix it,” says [Ivan Gekht].

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Rye
@nhoizey it's so bad, at best it can help with writing a test but even then I've yet to see it get it right to a degree I can trust it
- 28 November 2024, 03:13
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Ike
@nhoizey This tracks Brandolini's law[1]: The amount of energy needed to refute bullshit is an order of magnitude bigger than that needed to produce it.Note that in this case "effort" refers to the user's and not the compute effort.[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandolini's_law

Brandolini's law - Wikipedia
- 28 November 2024, 04:34
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Nicolas Hoizey
@rye exactly, I have the same feeling
- 28 November 2024, 08:57
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Nicolas Hoizey
@ike indeed ????
- 28 November 2024, 08:58
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Hen Gymro Heb Wlad
@nhoizey My wife is a professional translator. She has the same experience with most "AI" translation tools. Fine if you just want something that *looks* like program code/a translation in the target language. But for complex tasks where the solution needs to be *good*, you need a human in the loop. And then it's usually easier to let a skilled human do the job properly in the first place.
- 28 November 2024, 12:03
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Ondřej Synáček
@nhoizey It's really hard to tell where the conversation with LLMs is going. You have one side telling you it's inevitable future — feels like Big Tech employers want to take back power from engineers; and than the other one dismissing it. There's some usefulness there but it's probably not sustainable at the level of power/water consumption vs its value.
- 28 November 2024, 15:29
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Nicolas Hoizey
@hengymrohebwlad I agree. I know multiple professional translators. ????
- 28 November 2024, 18:31
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Nicolas Hoizey
@ondrej it’s difficult to know indeed, and I agree some of it can be useful.
- 28 November 2024, 18:33
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Fancy Sandwiches
@nhoizey who could have possibly predicted this
- 29 November 2024, 02:38
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StaringAtClouds
@nhoizey LLM generated code generally needs to be checked & corrected by a "dev that knows what they're doing"But all "devs that know what they're doing" were once entry level or "devs that need to learn stuff"Now LLM's have taken the place of the entry level devsSo once all "devs that know what they're doing" move on, leave or even dieWe'll just be left with the LLM's & no one to check & correct their output
- 29 November 2024, 03:47
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Emmanuel ????
@nhoizey Déjà qu'on a parfois du mal à relire son propre code… ????
- 6 December 2024, 17:49
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